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| Three Views on the Millennium and Beyond | 
 enlarge | Creators: Darrell L. Bock, Jr., Kenneth L. Gentry, Robert B. Strimple, Stanley N. Gundry
Publisher: Zondervan
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This is a presentation of and interaction among the three main views on the end times held by evangelicals: Premillennial, postmillennial, and amillennial.
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 Close but no cigar June 6, 2008
0 out of 2 found this review helpful
I had asked 2 of these men to debate a full preterist on the subject of the second coming of Christ, and both refused.
The book of Revelation was a letter written to specific people at a specific time in History (first century churches - 7 Churches). It was not written TO US, but FOR US to understand God's historical -redemptive plan for Israel.
The Church is the New Jerusalem which came down out of heaven, with the destruction of Babylon (Old Jerusalem) in 70a.d. Israel(the mother of harlots) was the only nation that was in covenant with God (Revelation is a covenant book), she killed the prophets and those sent to her. This is why God destroyed her, but kept His promise to remain true to the Old Covenant faithful (Abe, Isaac, Jacob,....etc.)These faithful inherited the land (kingdom of heaven)along with those in the first century when Christ returned in 70a.d.
Read these Time Statements and then tell me that Jesus was gonna come back in 2000 years:
Rev. 1:1,2; (things which must shortly take place)
Rev.2:5 - "Keep holding fast til I come" (letter to specific people)
Rev. 3:10 - "Hour of testing which is about to come on the whole inhabited land"
Rev. 18:24 - "And in Her (Babylon/Jerusalem) was found the blood of the prophets and
saints." (compare w/ Matt.23:31-39 & Luke 11:47-51)
Rev.22:6,7,12,& 20
These time statements show imminence to the first-century church (specific churches in Asia) to whom the letter/book was written.
Also notice Rev.22:10. This was the same book/message that Daniel was told to seal up until the TIME OF THE END,(not end of time), when the power of the Holy people/ Israel would be completely shattered (Dan.12:7) in 70a.d. with the destruction of the Old Covenant system (the power of Israel to communicate and covenant with their God). Daniel was told that this would be far off / many days away. John was told "NOT" to seal it up, for the time of the end was "NEAR".
Dan.9:20-24 - 70 weeks determined for "YOUR" people & city (Israel & Jerusalem)
Dan.12:1- "Time of Trouble" - (Compare with Matt. 24:21(destruction of Jerusalem) & Mark 13:19
Dan.12:2 - Compare w/ John 5:25-29 - (vs.25 - "now is" = first-fruits harvest / then comes verse 29 - Harvest / General Resurrection promised to Israel specific.) The first-fruits signifies an immediate Harvest. 30a.d. - 70a.d. was the 40 year wilderness / transition period being brought out of Egypt (bondage to sin) into the Land of promise (Full relationship with God - Out of Sin-Death).
Dan.12:4,9,13 - "seal up to the end" when he would receive his inheritance, which was promised to his people Israel, the Kingdom of God.
In other words, New Covenant relationship, as Abraham had been looking for (heavenly country - saw it afar off but did not receive it (Heb.11:10, 13-16, 39-40) til 70a.d. when Old passed away and New was consummated (Old Heaven & Earth / New Heaven & Earth).
Specifically look at Heb.11:39-40. "They (Old Covenant Saints) should not be made perfect apart from "Us" ( firstfruit - first century / New Covenant saints). In other words, they would all be made perfect together. When would this happen??
Heb.10:36-37 - They were told to endure to the end, which was going to be in a "very, very little while" "for He who is in the process of coming, will not tarry". Isn't 2000 years tarrying?? Either the writer of Hebrews was lying, or he was giving encouragement to those who were going through persecution, waiting for the promise of Christ to return in "This Generation" (Matt.24:33-35) - 40 years / specific people.
I know that it seems that I went off on a tangent, but I'm trying to point out that the Old Covenant promises were to a specific people and that the New Covenant writers were seeing these promises being fulfilled in their generation.
The book of Revelation is a Covenantal book that is taken too literally by christians today.
It is a book that shows God's consummation of His full Historical-Redemptive plan for a specific people. This is why the book is loaded with Old Testament symbolism.
Also, if Rev. 21 & 22 point to the eternal state after the Old Heavens and Earth are destroyed, then why is there a need for the nations to have to have healing????( Rev.22:2).
This is a picture that the gospel still goes forth after the Old Covenant has been done away with. Those outside the eternal kingdom need healing to be brought into the presence of God ( where I presently reside as I write this e-mail). I don't ever have to worry about judgement or condemnation ever again. This is what Jesus meant when he said, "You shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free".
All the land promises were fulfilled to the Jews in the first century A.D. They were spiritual land promises - being brought into the Kingdom of God - Into His presence. Remember, Abraham was looking for a spiritual country to rest in, not a literal country .
A Worthwhile Read September 21, 2005
3 out of 4 found this review helpful
Three Views on the Millennium and Beyond is a beneficial read for those unfamiliar with eschatology and/or someone seeking to expand their understanding of the three millinnial theories. Somewhat more attention seems to be give to Premilliannialism as it given a longer and more comprehension evaluation. The Premillennail argument does seem to prevail within the confines of this particular book, however, as stated above it is given more attention and the general editor is premillennial as well. The book contains a great article on Amillennialism by a well qualified and very gifted theologian and most of his points are not satisfactorally refuted by either of the other writers. The Postmillenial position seems to be the weakest within this particular volume. However, the reader will receive a detailed comprehensive explanation of all three view points that is beneficial. The book successfully accomplishes its goal of presenting all three millennial views and allowing limited room for discussion amongst the writers of each school of thought.
 Uneven presentation; OK discussion, but not concise December 7, 2004
11 out of 12 found this review helpful
In investigating the issue of the millennium, where should you start? Ultimately, I think this book makes the wrong choices in answering this question. While the discussion is interesting at times, I can't help but feel that Darrell Bock's summary essay should have been re-worked and presented at the beginning of the work. Basically, Bock writes that one's hermeneutical approach (the prism by which one interprets Scripture) largely determines what you believe the end times looks like. Bock notes how each passage deals with eschatological texts, and what questions each feels are key to understanding the nature of Jesus' return. If he had placed this at the beginning, I think it would be more helpful to the reader. Perhaps he could have then placed another essay "wrapping things up" at the end.
Kenneth Gentry Jr. contributes the postmillennial perspective, but does a much better job critiquing the positions of the others than advancing his own case. In his own essay, he really needed to a) explain his own hermeneutical approach in a coherent and distinctive fashion, rather than use generalities, and b) take the time to formulate a detailed explanation of how postmillennialism interprets Revelation 20 (the key text). As someone who considers himself sympathetic to postmillennialism's expectation that God's Kingdom is irrestibly advancing even in this current age, I really wanted Gentry to make a solid case. After all, Jonathan Edwards (arguably the greatest American mind ever) was post-mil, so surely it's a reasonable position. Alas.
Robert Strimple presents the amillennial position and does an excellent job presenting his overall hermeneutic and understanding of key passages. Of all the essays, his is probably the best. He boldly tackles Romans 11 to explain how amillennialism understands what is usually read as regarding a future conversion of Israel (although it seems Strimple only represents a portion of amil proponents who feel that Paul is not speaking 'prophetically' here).
Craig Blaising advances the premillennial position, and does a fair job with the exegesis portion, but I agree with the reviewer below who feels that premillennial positions come in basically two varities, and that each should have been allowed to speak for itself individually. Blaising spends too much on time on the history of thought regarding the nature of the eras beyond our own, and not enough time directly discussing the hermeneutics involved in how premillenialists arrive at the premillennial understanding of Revelation 20. In fairness, he is representing both the "George Ladd" premil folks (like me), and the much more strictly literal approach dispensationalist interpreters, so he's got to couch his argument in the shared understanding of the central text.
At any rate, I recommend Stanley Grenz's The Millennial Maze instead of this book. Grenz, although he is an amil guy, is extremely fair. Each position's history and hermeneutic is discussed in concise fashion, and followed with a targeted critique. I'm not finished reading it yet, but I actually thought that in presenting postmillennialism, he made a much better argument than Kenneth Gentry did in this book. In addition, I feel like I understand dispensationalism a WHOLE lot better than I ever did.
 Counterpoint Series November 15, 2004
4 out of 4 found this review helpful
I'm going to apply this commentary for the entire Counterpoint Series published by Zondervan Publishing Company. My compliments to that company for creating this series. I initially purchased "Four Views on the Book of Revelation" but soon realized it was only one in a series. I got so much out of that volume, that I decided to purchase the entire set to study and keep for reference. My spiritual growth has been remarkable as a result. Seminary students and professionals would probably enjoy this series, which seems geared for them. But this series is also excellent for those college-educated laypeople who feel inclined to enhance their understanding of Christian theology. That is, with one caveat: Buy a decent theological dictionary to refer to at first. It probably won't get used much after about the third book you choose to read, but initially you will be need it to be confident of some of the terms used among advanced theologians. Then, the Counterpoint series will give you a full understanding of many different concepts and concerns of the Christian faith which have been applicable from early on until the present. I've learned a lot, and the only way I think I could do better is if I were enrolled in Seminary. A list of all the titles I am aware of from this series is:
Are Miraculous Gifts for Today?
Five Views on Law and Gospel
Five Views on Sanctification
Four Views on Hell
Four Views on Salvation in a Pluralistic World
Four Views on the Book of Revelation
Three Views on Creation and Evolution
Three Views on the Millennium and Beyond
Three Views on the Rapture
Two Views on Women in Ministry
Vapid August 6, 2004
4 out of 7 found this review helpful
This debate had almost no life in it. I just don't see that much interaction between the three authors. Also, the fact that there were only three authors is problematic. Not having separate sections for Historic and Dispensational Premillenialism will certainly effect a work like this negatively. To have a Dispensationalist speak for an Historic Premillenialist ir vice versa will leave one of the views with poor representation because the presenter has no vested interst in that viewpoint (and is in fact an opponent, causing their presentation to intentionally be weak). This is certainly not the book that you want to use in a discipleship group or study. THe presentations are too weak. The way that each author approaches the discussion is far from forceful, which I feel it should be. I would suggest Meaning of the Millenium instead. But I could be wrong since there are people who've rated this work higher than the four-point. So check it out if you'd like.
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